We have been friends for a long time. I don't talk to them much. They haven't got any equity in the business, have said various things, but don't seem like founders, partners and hasn't been able to win any results. Like, at all. The authors, however were able to get new authors talking to us, and are getting us sales too. So our attention is focused on people who are getting us results.
Venura is an old friend, so we'll keep in touch, however, it's pretty sad, the guy needs a sense of direction, and to do something he can get behind.