add continue. 5:45 p.m.
I think Vanguard, BlackRock, these firms, they maintain top level access to the US defence firms. Without them, it is not possible for me to get certain things done. The Vanguard Group own a chunk of Lockheed Martin, or Raytheon. David Rubenstein's Carlyle Group owns shares in certain businesses.
The reason I would want them to own up to about 10% of my ownership shares at my firm, is so, when it is required, I can call them up, say, "Listen, Dave, you are an investor, I need some help with Raytheon, I need help pushing Lockheed or BAE. I know you know these guys, call them, say, we need a deal signed in SL".